benji
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Hi everyone,
It's time for me to buy a decent suit (say, for going to an job interview). I have never done this before, so I would welcome any tips.
I am Paris-based.
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RFMontraz
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I suggest you buy a pink suit and a big yellow tie with the image of a big blue whale on it. Couple it with some funky shirt from the seventies, crocodile boots and that black leather motorcycle hat (a la Freddie Mercury) and you are all set.
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| Mmm just get a good off-the-rack suit and get the tailors to amend it to your own needs. Don't buy a double-breasted blazer, get a single. Dark grey or black in colour; no garish stripes. |
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chiral3
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| I like Brooks three button (If you wan tto stay in the $500-$700 range) |
What do you mean by **drag** the range"? If you just mean expand the column width, that doesn't work. NUM! |
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AndyM
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<<Dark grey or black in colour>>
Save the black for funerals. |
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YukaRedux
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Dark blue/grey suit - right length sleeve & trousers, very important - the Chaplin look is out this year.
White shirt - ironed, nicely. Single color tie, not pastel, not dark. Double cuffs & unostentatious cufflinks if possible.
And shiney, shiney shoes - I've known people get jobs on the strength of the shine in their shoes alone.
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tbretagn
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Personally my bet is Dior today (well if you're slim enough). Dark grey with tiny greyish stripes.
blue/mauve shirt.
Bronze or red tie.
And shiny shoes. |
Et meme si ce n'est pas vrai, il faut croire en l'histoire ancienne |
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On a practical note, always get a cab to the interview. You don't want to end up in a deluge of rain and have people on the metro trampling on your shoes.
I'd always go for a white shirt, no risk there. Make sure its good quality, lots of white shirts seem to be thin almost see through cotton. Seems only to be an afflciton of white shirts.
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IAmEric
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I went to interview at a hedge fund or two decked out in my suit. All the guys there were casual. What you wear/what you buy depends a lot on the job you're going for. For some jobs, showing up in anything but a black suit would be sacrilege. For others, showing up in a suit at all would be cause for ridicule (I know, I was ridiculed!). Then there is an entire spectrum in between.
Ok. I'm done stating the obvious (for now!) |
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jungle
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black is not really the done thing in the city...dunno how convention works elsewhere.
if it is your first "serious" suit then don't spend too much...after 6mo you will realize you want the notch on the lapel 1/2" higher etc...kind of takes time to figure out exactly what you want.
and dior...yes...hedi slimane suits are great. but you need to be a tall skinny mofo. ditto jil sander suits, but jil has left (  ), so no reason to buy the label now. |
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tbretagn
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Happily, I just happen to be tall and skinny. 
Other suits I find nice (since in Paris I don't know about good tailors) are Zegna ones. Really cool, but mostly a sales man dress. Beware.
And IMHO, I think it doesn't feel bad to wear a suit, it's the standard (and not your fault if some directors like wearing hawaian shirts on wednesday).
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DW
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| Even if your interviewing with a fund who dress in bermuda shorts and sandals you should still wear a suit. They may ridicule you but in truth they are not going to not hire you on account of your appearance.
YukaRedux is spot on, as is london pete with his taxi comment.
If i'm going for a meeting, i'll always get a cab so as not to turn up looking like i've been 10 rounds with the tramp on the underground. Needless to say, plan to arrive with 10 minutes to spare and approach the front desk to contact your interviewer with 5-7 minutes to go until your scheduled interview time. |
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Veegan
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"if it is your first "serious" suit then don't spend too much...after 6mo you will realize you want the notch on the lapel 1/2" higher etc...kind of takes time to figure out exactly what you want."
Great advice - buy a tailored suit when you get the job.
However, do buy a good tie or two for interviewing. A great tie can raise a so-so suit, but a bad tie will dominate even the best suits. Also, learn how to tie a perfect half-Windsor knot and show it off with a wide-collar shirt.
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IAmEric
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That explains why I didn't get the job at that hedge fund... I wore a black suit. DoH!
This thread is great. I wish it existed 3 months ago...
By the way, DW, did you get my email? I sent two in the last 3 months with no reply. I'm beginning to feel ignored 
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YukaRedux
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learn how to tie a perfect half-Windsor knot
damn right - http://www.tie-a-tie.net/halfwindsor.html
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goldorak
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I've always been really surprised to see people with huge salaries, as it is the case in finance, judging ex-student without that much money to be invested in a suit. Once you pay them decently, you can judge their taste and give them advice if needed, but before that, judging anyone is totally tasteless.
I've always fighted to hire people with something in their head, not something on their shoulders...
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YukaRedux
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You've completely missed the point. No-one (at least no-one worth working for) is judging your taste. While a stripey tie and light green suit may not be to the interviewer's taste, so long as they are clean, ironed and show that the interviewee has given some care and attention to the way they look, then you're not going far wrong. No-one's looking for Armani tailoring, and you'll get hired (or not) based on many other things aside from the height of the notch in your lapel.
The point is that you should look like you care. Like you want to make a good impression. Like you actually want to come & work with me. Casual is fine, so long as it looks like you made an effort - iron the shirt, shine the shoes and get a tie.
Come to the interview in jeans & a grubby t-shirt, and no matter how good the content of your head is, you're not sending me the right vibe - the vibe that says "I can get my butt out of bed each day and put in the time to get this done. I care about what I do, and I'm not such an assh0le as to think that the rules of the game don't apply to me.". Inattention to detail in one aspect of your life is not an isolated event - it pervades.
The rules of the game do apply, to everyone. Thinking they don't leads to.... well, Bell. And you don't want to go there, do you?
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Kutilya
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Half windsor...hehe takes too much time, I just do the short flip and duck, but I don't pay too much attention to the knot as long as it comes out even, which is easier with soft silk tie IMHO.
But I doooo hate ties.
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Half windsor...hehe takes too much time
I can do it in a few seconds, one thing i learnt well during my national service. |
Αίεν Υψικράτειν/Τύχη μη πίστευε/Άνδρα Αρχή Δείκνυσι/Νόησις Αρχή Επιστήμης //Σε ενα κλουβί γραφείο σαν αγρίμι παίζω ατέλειωτο βουβό ταξίμι
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goldorak
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Yuka, was your answer directed to me ? Because my message wasn't directed to you or any other post in this thread. Just a personal general critic of business world and banks in particular. In one sentence, if people there think that someone who must have ideas, creativity and independence of mind must look like everyone else, they are just wrong.
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chiral3
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Here's what I got out of this thread: Wear clothes to an interview.  |
What do you mean by **drag** the range"? If you just mean expand the column width, that doesn't work. NUM! |
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Johnny
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| I just got "wear a tie". The rest of the clothes seem to be optional. |
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James
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benji,
for a decent suit that will pass muster in paris and London, go to "Pape" in the 8th or 7th arr.
Get the standard pin stripe.
This is a suit that is partially 'ready made,' and then fitted to your mesurements.
This is halfway between 'off the rack' and 'bespoke.'
I have three Pape suits and they stand up to not-too-close-scrutiny with saville row bespokes.
go now, sales are ending soon. |
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Patrik
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The "optimal" strategy I developed when reading the thread was: Before you leave home, put on a suit and pack a Hawaii shirt and shorts in a (respectable) bag. Take a taxi to the interview site. Be there on time. If the guys interviewing you wear Hawaii shirts and seem like they could tease you about the suit, excuse yourself and go to the gents to change into the Hawaii garments. Always be prepared!  |
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yasgirl
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Try De Viris shops (rue Caumartin or rue Danielle Casanova), they do Loro Piana super 120 cloth suits with great cut for cheap price (approx 350 - 400 EUR per suit).
Alternatively, try "Scott & Fox" shops (near rue Tronchet or on rue de la pompe near Janson) more expensive but very nice suits. |
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