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TonyC
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Posted: 2005-03-19 17:54
having a brain fart, i seem to remember that there was a simple relation twixt the price of eurpean options and the distribution of the asset price.

something like "the derivative of this black-scholes input with respect to that black-scholes input gives the probabliity" [or was it the cumulative probablility till that point?] . . . is it:

- derivative of the strike with respect to option's price?
or
- derivative of option's price with respect to strike?

or some other simple thing like that?

[i'm trying to determine the distribution implied by the observed smile]

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baghead


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Posted: 2005-03-19 18:34

derivative of the strike with respect to option's price?
you wanna derive a constant rwt something.... ???

for the impl. dist try Corrado-Su model
Implied volatility skews and stock return skewness and kurtosis implied by stock option prices

paper
http://www.bus.miami.edu/~tsu/ejf97.pdf

spreadsheet
http://www.geocities.com/gbosmis/files/Corrado_Su_Model.xls

a bit basic 'cause it just includes two parameters (skew and kurtosis)!

have fun!!


Gusak


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Posted: 2005-03-19 18:38

if you have option prices for all strikes (say, through an interpolated implied vol function vol(K) ), you can extract implied probability (for asset distr. at time T =options' maturity) in the following form:

 d^2[Call(T,vol(K),K)] /dK^2   = discountFactor(T) *  p(K),

where p(K) is the prob. density function of the asset at time T. Which  'means' that

Prob( K<S(T)<K+dK) = p(K)*dK

So indeed, forgetting the disc. gactor it is second derivative of the option price wrt strike

You can see that this is true very easily:

the idea here is that the second derivative of the options price with respect to strike a limiting case of a very very tight butterfly. And such a tight butterfly will only pay out when spot ends up in a very tight interval given by the butterflies strikes.

 

 


Gusak


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Posted: 2005-03-19 18:53

ok, and if you are after the probability distrubution function, like Prob (S<K), then

it's as simple as the undiscounted digital price D(K),

or just a tight call spread..


Martingale
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Posted: 2005-03-19 20:14
Another way to see this is
C(S,K) = E{ max (S_T-K, 0)} = \int f(S,S_T)max (S_T -K,0) dS_T

Take derivative twice with respect to K on both side, notice that second derivative of max (S_T-K, 0) with respect to K is just the Dirac-Delta funtion, so the RHS becomes the density f.

Graeme


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Posted: 2005-03-20 09:39
This is the argument of Breeden and Litzenberger, who I think were the first to realise this result. The first few pages of their paper are actually well worth reading.

Graeme West

TonyC
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Posted: 2005-03-20 14:27
thanks to all, and

> This is the argument of Breeden and Litzenberger, who I think were the first to realise this result.

BINGO! thats what my cobwebbed mind was remembering, some guy whose name began with an "L" . . .

> The first few pages of their paper are actually well worth reading.

what paper was that again?

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M1kz


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Posted: 2005-03-20 16:02
Given what Martingale wrote below, I guess the paper is their classic one, i.e.:

Breeden, Douglas T & Litzenberger, Robert H, 1978.
"Prices of State-contingent Claims Implicit in Option Prices," Journal of Business, University of Chicago Press, vol. 51(4), pages 621-51.

I got a pdf-version available, email me if you want it.

jungle
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Posted: 2005-03-21 12:09

Attached File: RND implieds.pdf

useful literature review.


think about shoes, inhale...okay, think about cool grey fabrics, exhale....better?

apine


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Posted: 2005-03-21 22:07
M1kz,
if possible pls post the article. i was going to email you, but thought others might want it, too.

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AVt


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Posted: 2005-03-21 22:57
May be it is worth to remember, that the RND is not the asset distribution
because then one would get all prices from history (besides scaling).

jungle
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Posted: 2005-03-22 13:59

Attached File: JoB 51.pdf

breeden and litzenberger attached.


think about shoes, inhale...okay, think about cool grey fabrics, exhale....better?

apine


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Posted: 2005-03-23 03:07
thank you.

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